Good debate going on over at Backyard Missionary on Youth ministry and Discipleship, well worth a read.
I had a REAL rant about this way back in terms of the Church and discipleship, I hope what Hamo has started will fuel a meaningful AND USEFUl debate, Quite a few folk have picked this up, check out Marko.
Hey bro
Thanks for the link up! Great challenges for us aren't there :)
Hamo
...I see you are getting sucked into Blogging jargon now ;-) Funny how these things take off... a few months ago everyone was saying "thanks for the link to..." now its all "HT" this and "HT" that... Blogging is no longer a tool... it has become a culture ;-)
Mark,
OOOps guilty as charged but you should know I've anglicized it. I think in the U.S it means 'Hat tip to' but 'ht' here is *clears throat, adopts very English plummmy accent* 'Humble thanks!'